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I would appreciate the help of anyone who has been in same situation as me or from those who know the Canadian law for citizenship.
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[FONT=Calibri]I am a woman of 30 years old who come to Canada in 2002 to joint my Canadian husband. I was a full time mother since I had three kids in laps of 4 years, all of them born in Montreal and I have never been outside Canada. I have completed my 3 years compulsory period in 2005 and applied for my citizenship. A years later (December 2006), I was sent a first notice to present for the citizenship test and ceremony which was planned for on January 2007 but I missed it because in November 2006 my Husband 9 who was laid off from his work) had an offer to do a PhD in the UK and I had to go with him because our kids were too Young (3 years 1.5 years and anew born) and I was not sure to manage them alone mostly in Montreal winter. I have communicated with the citizenship and told them that I can not attend this time and asked to reschedule another for July 2007 which they did. Unfortunately I also missed the second notice which they sent me in June 2007 because the person who was looking after our house and mail left the country for summer vacation and we just did not know that we received a second notice to pass the test. Again we communicated with citizenship and requested a third time appointment which we received in January 2008. This one I did not miss and I attend the test and successfully achieved it. As you may know after the written test you will have to pass an interview with a citizenship agent or judge. He asked me to provide my passport and the IMM2000. I do not know if it was a bad luck but when I showed him my passport he asked about the old one (passport) so I showed him a certified copy of the old one which he simply refused. I have explained that when we renew the passport our embassy keep the old one and provide a certified copy. He then asked why I have missed the two appointments for the test, so I have told him the reason and told him that I have never left Canada before the end of my fourth year. He did not understand and asked me to fill a questionnaire and give evidence. I was so disappointed because I suffered during the first four years in Canada imagine 3 kids in a row and never seen my family. My first child saw his grand parents until he reached 3. Now it has been almost a year and half since I have provided the questionnaire with all the evidences I could gather such as bank statement, income tax, house property, phone and hydro bills, letters from hospital medical center stating I was followed up by the same doctor for all my three kids from first moth of pregnancy till the delivery and post delivery. I have provided letter from the CLSC for all the visits that the nurses did in my house…etc and so far no response. Please advise me what to do. I feel being treated unfairly. Do you think I should take a lawyer? Do you think I should apply again? It is just unfair. By the way I explained my case to my embassy in Montreal and they told in case I need I can go pick up my old passport for temporary period and return it when am done.
my advanced thanx to all of you

I'm not sure why you feel you are being treated unfairly.
You asked for a reschedule - they obliged - you missed your reschedule.
You asked to reschedule again, they obliged.
They asked for your old passport (standard request) and you didn't provide it. You now say you can get it from the Embassy, it probably would have been better to do that at the time you needed it.

Not producing your old passport, missing 2 tests - rescheduling one after the fact and then leaving Canada all make the judge suspicious.
What do they say when you phone?

I'm not sure why you look at your time in Canada as "suffering" and then want Canadian citizenship. It's not CIC's fault that you had 3 kids in a row & your husband took a position in the UK and you went with him.

As far as reapplying - they look back the previous 4 years from when you apply - it doesn't sound as if you'd meet the residency requirement at this point so I don't think reapplying would be wise.

maria1165 Wrote:I would appreciate the help of anyone who has been in same situation as me or from those who know the Canadian law for citizenship.

I am a woman of 30 years old who come to Canada in 2002 to joint my Canadian husband. I was a full time mother since I had three kids in laps of 4 years, all of them born in Montreal and I have never been outside Canada. I have completed my 3 years compulsory period in 2005 and applied for my citizenship. A years later (December 2006), I was sent a first notice to present for the citizenship test and ceremony which was planned for on January 2007 but I missed it because in November 2006 my Husband 9 who was laid off from his work) had an offer to do a PhD in the UK and I had to go with him because our kids were too Young (3 years 1.5 years and anew born) and I was not sure to manage them alone mostly in Montreal winter. I have communicated with the citizenship and told them that I can not attend this time and asked to reschedule another for July 2007 which they did. Unfortunately I also missed the second notice which they sent me in June 2007 because the person who was looking after our house and mail left the country for summer vacation and we just did not know that we received a second notice to pass the test. Again we communicated with citizenship and requested a third time appointment which we received in January 2008. This one I did not miss and I attend the test and successfully achieved it. As you may know after the written test you will have to pass an interview with a citizenship agent or judge. He asked me to provide my passport and the IMM2000. I do not know if it was a bad luck but when I showed him my passport he asked about the old one (passport) so I showed him a certified copy of the old one which he simply refused. I have explained that when we renew the passport our embassy keep the old one and provide a certified copy. He then asked why I have missed the two appointments for the test, so I have told him the reason and told him that I have never left Canada before the end of my fourth year. He did not understand and asked me to fill a questionnaire and give evidence. I was so disappointed because I suffered during the first four years in Canada imagine 3 kids in a row and never seen my family. My first child saw his grand parents until he reached 3. Now it has been almost a year and half since I have provided the questionnaire with all the evidences I could gather such as bank statement, income tax, house property, phone and hydro bills, letters from hospital medical center stating I was followed up by the same doctor for all my three kids from first moth of pregnancy till the delivery and post delivery. I have provided letter from the CLSC for all the visits that the nurses did in my house…etc and so far no response. Please advise me what to do. I feel being treated unfairly. Do you think I should take a lawyer? Do you think I should apply again? It is just unfair. By the way I explained my case to my embassy in Montreal and they told in case I need I can go pick up my old passport for temporary period and return it when am done.
my advanced thanx to all of you

hi guys

Dear all
I have passed successfully my citizenship exam in 2008 but the judge refused me the ceremony and asked me to fill a residency questionnaire for the reasons I have mentioned in my old threat. Now have been called to pass an interview with a citizenship judge and I want to ask any one who has been in this situation about the questions to expect from the judge. Is he going to limit his questions to the first four years preceding my application and for which I have submitted a lot of documents that proves my residency or is he going to ask also on the period after I have passed my test. Is the fact that I have moved temporarily outside Canada after completing my citizenship requirement for residency ( I moved after staying 4 years in Canada)going to be a problem ( my husband is studying abroad had to follow him). In case it is a problem what to do?
thanks for yourtime

Maria,

Please don't double-post. I've deleted your other thread with the duplicate post. Thanks.

I know a lot less about Citizenship than PR applications, but you might want to read over CP5 (especially section 5) to get an idea of the types of things judges are looking at if residency is in question:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/m.../index.asp

In general, my understanding is the citizenship judge is wanting to ensure you are actually resident in, established, and tied to Canada in order to grant citizenship.

I don't know exactly which period the judge will ask you about, but I would suggest focusing your efforts on showing that you are - now - established permanently in Canada.