This might be a stupid question, but here goes:
My husband's step-brother was charged with what I believe is a DUI back in March (lost his license ouch!). This makes him the only member of the family with a criminal history, sadly.
The step-bro is listed on the family members form along with everyone else. Does CSIS actually go and check EVERY member of the family for unsavory conduct? If/when step-bro's DUI is discovered will this spell trouble for Paul's application in the form of an interview, extended delays, or even visa denial etc. I know it really doesn't make sense at all because my husband had nothing to do with it but I really don't want things to get sloooowed doooown because of this.
It's such a pisser too! The DAY it happened, I was down in Ohio visiting and creating our application and I asked step-bro jokingly, "You don't have a criminal past do you?" That nite he rolled his car and was unlucky enough to have been found with alcohol in his system. D'oh!
Moral: Don't ask your family about their evil misdoings. Bad juju.
no. the list is more critical when you are making an application to sponsor one of those on the list somewhere along the road. if they are not on the original application, CIC will not consider them eligible.
it is more applicable to minor children or parents
I was curious about that myself because my "darling" brother (yeah - I can't stand him & haven't talked to him in almost 5 yrs) was arrested for something really, really bad in December.
With my wonderful family - I found out about it by reading in it in the online edition of the local (back in NY) paper.
I even talked to the chief detective and found out that the FBI was looking to get involved. That's part of the reason we held off for a bit sending in our application. The first thing we thought of was that it could have consequences with our application.
So - basically LSB - a DUI is nothing compared to what my family member was arrested for and...so far, so good...:)
I wondered about this. I speculated that even though "additional family members" are not accompanying family nor even prospective immigrants, that there is probably a background check run on all family members. There are some catch-all provisions re "security" that suggest this and that, in what I assume are only extreme circumstances (as in background information or "intelligence" not amounting to an official record which nonetheless leads CSIS to infer a significant security threat), someone might be deemed inadmissible on such grounds, perhaps without even being informed as to evidence or facts underlying those grounds. But, again, I think this is limited to the most extreme circumstances; thus, for example, perhaps certain members of the Gotti family, even if crime free themselves, would run into problems emigrating to Canada.
Thus, people with immediate family members engaged in terrorism, organized crime, and so on, might encounter problems. Just having a sibling with a criminal record, particularly if a serious crime, might invite closer scrutiny but this is probably something that at most should merely delay the background check some but should not result in being deemed inadmissible.
Of course, I am speculating. This is one area in which CIC and CSIS and similar agencies in the U.S. and elsewhere are quite close-lipped about. But I'm sure they do not ask for the "additional family" information out of idle curiosity.
I've got a brother with a record. He was actually called by CSIS, so I know they know about him. He used to be military intelligence, and for some reason they decided that they would call him to double check things I had put in my application. My application could be deemed colorful. So, it shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks Catherine, I remember reading one of your posts about them phoning your brother.
That got me antsy as - I do not speak to this piece of scum at all.
But I knew I had no choice but to list him.
I've been thinking about phoning or emailing the chief detective to find out what's going on with the case (since my parents don't/won't discuss it.
I was told though back in December that if the FBI is investigating - it could take awhile. As awful as it sounds, I was/am hoping that the Feds pick up his charges, yeah - I really hate him that much.
The best that I can get out of my brother about what CSIS asked had to do with my background, not his. His charge involved a domestic violence thing that happened when his soon to be ex wife stole his truck, and he chased her down in traffic trying to get it back. He had a top security clearance at one time, and I'm told that is why they contacted him. My mother in law was calling CIC and her MP trying to get my immigration denied, and they wanted someone they felt like they could trust to see if I was telling the truth, or if my MIL was. They believed my brother, and so they believed me.
Forgive me for being ignorant but they want all our family members listed even though they don't live in the same household with us?? All my family live over 100 miles from me. I thought it was only if they lived in the same household or if they were being sponsored to come to Canada as well. I'm confused...as usual.
Any clarification on this would be GREATLY appreciated.
Lyric Wrote:Forgive me for being ignorant but they want all our family members listed even though they don't live in the same household with us?? All my family live over 100 miles from me. I thought it was only if they lived in the same household or if they were being sponsored to come to Canada as well. I'm confused...as usual.
Any clarification on this would be GREATLY appreciated.
Lyric,
This is the form IMM 5406
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/fo...M5406E.PDF
It's my understanding that everyone must fill this out. (inland or out, skilled worker, etc)
This is
different than accompanying/non-accompanying ones that are for your immidiate family & that you need photos for, etc. [IMM 0008]
Hope this clarifies things a bit
Thanks for all your responses! Isn't a DUI the most common thing out there? I wonder if it would it matter that it's only his step-brother... and that he lives with his father, not in the same house as my husband? GRR I'm mad now, stupid kid!
I'm gonna post this on immigration.ca and see what I get there, too!
Your husband does need to include his step-brother on the additional family information form, and they might check into his background - but they're not interested in his DUI. The background checks are looking for more serious threats than that . . . for example, if the step-bro had ties to organized crime, they'd look more carefully at your husband for similar ties. But the step-bro having a DUI is not in any way going to affect your husband's admissibility to Canada. His step-bro is not his dependent, and he's not eligible to be sponsored to Canada by your husband. So the DUI is a non-issue.
DerbyGirl Wrote:Lyric,
This is the form IMM 5406 http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/fo...M5406E.PDF
It's my understanding that everyone must fill this out. (inland or out, skilled worker, etc)
This is different than accompanying/non-accompanying ones that are for your immidiate family & that you need photos for, etc. [IMM 0008]
Hope this clarifies things a bit
Thanks so much for that...somehow I completely overlooked that form!
I am American, my wife is Canadian. She lives there and I live in the states. I have 2 dui's. I am still on probation until May of 09. Does anyone know of anyone else that has this problem but was still allowed to visit Canada? I have heard all kinds of extremes and don't know what to believe.
Does anyone know the process to get me to be at least able to visit her in Canada legally?
I hope someone can help. We are pretty desperate here. Thanks so much in advance.
Eric and Dawn